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Jul. 22nd, 2004 05:22 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Well, today started out ok... then it just want crashing downhill into this horrible fiery mess of a train wreck.
I honestly feel sick. Like I am going to throw up. For real. My face is all hot, and I'm shakey because I'm so upset. Another author sorta kinda accused me of plagiarism. You all know how I feel about that. I would NEVER. I was accused on two counts. I checked out the first one. It looks bad. I honestly didn't remember the plot twist in one of her fics that I'd used for the basis of mine. I'd read that part in her fic about 3 months ago and have read many other things since then. It really wasn't that big of a leap to me, the situation, the specifics, but I can see how it looks bad. VERY bad. Also, I really don't think I'm going the same way with it, but it embarrasses me all the same that it happened. I added a note crediting her with the plot. I've apologised, but you know how some people can be about things sometimes... especially when upset. I should know... I'm one of those people. I have this nagging sense of dread that this person won't believe me when I say what happened was not intentional.
And I'm a bit horrified by the second accusation... because it's not me. I never wrote the pairing talked about in this other time. It just goes right back to that 'ahh, so that's what you think'. I have to wonder why she thought that was me too. Why was that connection so easily made?
I sorta feel like I wanna cry about a little. I know, what f*cking baby, right? But I'm just so upset. I don't even want to go to work tonight. I haven't gotten dressed at all for trying to deal with this, and I have to leave the house in 25 minutes now.
eta: Apparently, the second one WAS me, but it's not what you think. I had someone come back from the dead in the same way. The fic was different, with different pairings, different plot points, and everything, and it's even a non-issue now as my fic is not posted anywhere... save the archives of a yahoo group which I am now considering deleting those posts. I'd forgotten it was even still there until this. Also, i had credited that part to her in the ANs.
The thing of this part of it is... this author proved it by showing me part of a review that someone posted on my fic where they mention the similarity. Now, this is a review that had lots of other things in it that REALLY upset me at the time. That is perhaps why I don't remember that part of it. It was a review I felt was truthful, but overly harsh. I don't know how I feel about this other author having it.
Though I was believed when I said none of it had been done with intent. That relieves me a bit. But the shock of this hasn't worn off yet. I still don't feel well... and now I am officially late to work.
I honestly feel sick. Like I am going to throw up. For real. My face is all hot, and I'm shakey because I'm so upset. Another author sorta kinda accused me of plagiarism. You all know how I feel about that. I would NEVER. I was accused on two counts. I checked out the first one. It looks bad. I honestly didn't remember the plot twist in one of her fics that I'd used for the basis of mine. I'd read that part in her fic about 3 months ago and have read many other things since then. It really wasn't that big of a leap to me, the situation, the specifics, but I can see how it looks bad. VERY bad. Also, I really don't think I'm going the same way with it, but it embarrasses me all the same that it happened. I added a note crediting her with the plot. I've apologised, but you know how some people can be about things sometimes... especially when upset. I should know... I'm one of those people. I have this nagging sense of dread that this person won't believe me when I say what happened was not intentional.
And I'm a bit horrified by the second accusation... because it's not me. I never wrote the pairing talked about in this other time. It just goes right back to that 'ahh, so that's what you think'. I have to wonder why she thought that was me too. Why was that connection so easily made?
I sorta feel like I wanna cry about a little. I know, what f*cking baby, right? But I'm just so upset. I don't even want to go to work tonight. I haven't gotten dressed at all for trying to deal with this, and I have to leave the house in 25 minutes now.
eta: Apparently, the second one WAS me, but it's not what you think. I had someone come back from the dead in the same way. The fic was different, with different pairings, different plot points, and everything, and it's even a non-issue now as my fic is not posted anywhere... save the archives of a yahoo group which I am now considering deleting those posts. I'd forgotten it was even still there until this. Also, i had credited that part to her in the ANs.
The thing of this part of it is... this author proved it by showing me part of a review that someone posted on my fic where they mention the similarity. Now, this is a review that had lots of other things in it that REALLY upset me at the time. That is perhaps why I don't remember that part of it. It was a review I felt was truthful, but overly harsh. I don't know how I feel about this other author having it.
Though I was believed when I said none of it had been done with intent. That relieves me a bit. But the shock of this hasn't worn off yet. I still don't feel well... and now I am officially late to work.
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Date: 2004-07-22 03:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-22 04:29 pm (UTC)It's entirely possible to come up with the same thing separately, but it's hard if not impossible to prove, especially if you did read the something similar.
I think that's what had me so upset. I know I didn't do it, I know I wasn't think of her fic when I started mine, but like you said, it's impossible to prove.
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Date: 2004-07-22 04:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-22 04:52 pm (UTC)I have to go to work. That's the worst part. I know I'm going to be in a mood all night. Maybe they'll let me leave early. Yeah right. Who am I kidding?
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Date: 2004-07-22 06:21 pm (UTC)I remember thinking that I had a really unique idea a while back with LoF, only to find that someone started writing a fic using an almost identical "hook" not 2 weeks later. I was more than a bit crestfallen when I ran across it.
Oh, well. It just goes to show that even when you're foing your damndest to be original, there's always goig to be someone else dreaming up a similar idea.
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Date: 2004-07-23 04:15 am (UTC)A pox on all their houses!!
Date: 2004-07-22 08:03 pm (UTC)It's all your fault, you turned me into a fan...wait, I shouldn't be blaming you, I should be thanking you.. How to do that? Would you like more pics? ;)
Re: A pox on all their houses!!
Date: 2004-07-22 10:48 pm (UTC)In fact, some sweet weirdo mailed me a screencap of Gary Oldman's butt earlier with 'bite here' with an arrow pointing at the butt cheek. Naked man ass always cheers me. So does W/Snape.
Thank you.
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Date: 2004-07-22 08:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-22 10:52 pm (UTC)Nothing like a little man ass to cheer a girl right up.
Booger
Date: 2004-07-22 11:45 pm (UTC)Ciao
Re: Booger
Date: 2004-07-24 01:23 pm (UTC)Re: Booger
Date: 2004-07-25 12:43 am (UTC)Ciao
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Date: 2004-07-23 09:39 am (UTC)And this is why most authors refuse to read fanfic...it's totally possible to forget where you got an idea from, and use it, and never even know, until you're accused of plagiarism.
*sigh*
Even though things have cleared up, I hope you feel better.
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Date: 2004-07-24 01:33 pm (UTC)I think I may have to stop reading fanfic though. I don't read a whole-whole lot as it is, but I may just stop all together. I don't want something like this to happen again. I'll just stick to a few authors that there's no way I'd ever be able to NOT read their stuff.
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Date: 2004-07-24 01:46 pm (UTC)I could never stop reading fic. I just couldn't. But that's me, not you, and if you think that not reading fanfic will be what's best, then that's your call. As long as you still read mine when I post snippets! ;-)
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Date: 2004-07-23 12:49 pm (UTC)Haven't these people ever heard the saying, there is only one real story just many different ways of telling it. Plenty of authors come up with the same sort of ideas yet they aren't accused of being plagarism. I think that these people are just out to be sensationalists, or perhaps desperate to upset someone more talented/successful than they are. They are probably hoping that you will release their names and give them the publicity they feel that they deserve.
Ignore them. Fine, so a single plot point is the same as yours - it's not the whole story, and you didn't intentionally copy it (if you even did)...Are they going to try and tell you that every single thing they have written is unique to them? Also, so a character came back to life in the same way? Hmm...how many writers can honestly say that they haven't used something they have seen on TV or in a movie?
Raye
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Date: 2004-07-24 01:38 pm (UTC)But the situation has been handled... and civilly... because it was an honest oversight on my part.
Revelations abound
Date: 2004-07-23 01:24 pm (UTC)Re: Revelations abound
Date: 2004-07-24 01:41 pm (UTC)